While I dont think it will kill you, I dont think its something you should consider turning to. With thermogenics, they actually tell you to stop using them after a while, and "cycle" out of their use. ._2a172ppKObqWfRHr8eWBKV{-ms-flex-negative:0;flex-shrink:0;margin-right:8px}._39-woRduNuowN7G4JTW4I8{border-top:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-lineColor);margin-top:12px;padding-top:12px}._3AOoBdXa2QKVKqIEmG7Vkb{font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);border-radius:4px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;margin-top:12px}.vzEDg-tM8ZDpEfJnbaJuU{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);height:14px;width:14px}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between}._2ygXHcy_x6RG74BMk0UKkN{margin-left:8px}._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-left:auto}._1-25VxiIsZFVU88qFh-T8p{padding:0}._3BmRwhm18nr4GmDhkoSgtb{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyText);-ms-flex:0 0 auto;flex:0 0 auto;line-height:16px} http://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/comments/pgrmv/newbie_intro_plus_how_do_i_use_rloseit_to_help_me/c3paclj. Its not only about the poison, its about the improper intake of calories and nutrients. If I can not make it to cardio barre, I work out at my gym with the eliptical and/or treadmill. Now, I'll change up my workout, favoring cardio, and give my body the chance to let Recreate work its magic on its own while it's flushed out of my system. Some people legitimately need weight loss products, and that's fine, but I think Herbalife became a stupid, trendy fad. I just started a cutting phase, timed with my last 2 Recreate capsules. It probably does have benefits but I would never use it based solely on how annoying their sales associates can be. But this is discouraging... We have one of their "nutrition centers" in my hometown. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. ._33axOHPa8DzNnTmwzen-wO{font-size:14px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:32px;text-transform:uppercase;display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%} 2016 – do you want to get some motivation for your weight loss? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbalife#Ephedrine. Diet pills are iffy for me as well. So for that reason it was worth it, but health wise no it certainly was not worth it. They even have meal plans that incorporate their shakes, bars and supplements. Herbalife, a company that sells weight-loss shakes, vitamins, and other health products has been around for more than 30 years. 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I spin 3-4 times a week, and try to do cardio barre 2 times a week. What's really happening is people are going from a caloric surplus (which they had no idea they were in) and losing water weight. And people kept telling me that I wouldn't fit into it and to just buy a new dress. An employee basically told me to not eat chicken because it's unhealthy and has too much fat and also that bread is basically poisoning my body if I ever eat it. The reason for this is you want to bring your tolerance down while at the same time giving them a chance to work (a lot of the ingredients of the supplements stay in your body, ready to be "flushed out" along with a ton of fat). Well on top of my other research that things are still up in the air on that, I still dont trust something that's ingredients are even dangerous in the first place. I am not lifting weights currently, as I want to drop some initial weight with cardio and gain some momentum first, then move to weights. Also, most of the herbalife guys don't know anything about training or nutrition and have no education. Eat one normal meal. It's a pyramid scheme. Herbalife Weight Loss – Step 4. It is one of those things you do for a week, and you drink shakes they send you twice a day, and then have a meal recommended by them once a day. .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{height:24px;vertical-align:middle;width:24px}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 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